Troy McLachlan interviewed by Dia Nunez in a mesmerizing podcast. I'm so grateful that we get a chance to digest this stuff before the rest. The term swamped by reality comes to mind and so we're able to contextualise the implications of all this and keep our seats at the front of the train.
It's an even better interview than the Red Ice episode although maybe that was just so overwhelming I couldn't digest all the information in one go.