The 4227 00B0 is Fu*'d

It was fine for close to a week. Then it did moves not quite possible to my knowledge. Anyway, I shot my mouth off about it and it's gone now, presenting me with a problem to solve or not.

An Ebay Winner - SEIKO 5 4227 00B0

 

 

This is a mint condition SEIKO 4227-00BO from January 1980. It's pricey but there are people who value a mint condition. I bought one some time ago but when it arrived it wasn't keeping time so I returned it. One thing that is brilliant about ebay is the returns policy. Even if the seller states no returns, ebay will usually step in and refund either partially or fully depending on the claim. It's built into the pricing but I've returned a dozen or so watches usually for losing or gaining 5 minutes or more  a day. That's my threshold because it's over half an hour a week but for a really desirable model I'd probably swallow it.

 

The version I bought was a real fluke (I've been very lucky in my time). First off nobody else bid on it which is highly unusual as there's an army of lowest cost SEIKO watch buyers who will bid on anything low priced from 99p upwards to a starting bid of say £20 eventually reaching about £50 sale price. But where I had an advantage was that I knew the model, knew it's value and could see that the seller took an out of focus primary image photograph. There was a better shot in the film roll but it was smaller and as I mentioned I wasn't sure what I was getting till it arrived. Anyway for 25 quid it wasn't going to disappoint massively - I've just noticed there's two bids on it so somebody tried to outbid my by raising the price a few pennies but I think I rounded up my only bid. An extra pound could have robbed me of the prize.

 

Even the more focused shot is ambiguous about the casing colour but as previously mentioned, when it arrived I was stoked. It's in terrific condition and even has a slight patina of wear on the bracelet edges for authenticity.

 

I also have the smallest model in this range, the SEIKO 5 - 4207-00N0 that I purchased from a Japanese seller. It was produced in November 1985 and is very dinky but I love wearing it. Because it is near mint condition I also don't feel guilty about wearing it more than the older models I have.

 The reason for these watch posts is I've a gut feel about something. I always liked the idea of an Automatic watch and I've explained why I focus on the SEIKO TV models from 68-73 but the manner of my immersion into the field was so not me. Firstly I'm absolutely not a materialists. I like and value luxury items but I don't need them. My first watch was a sort of long held hankering that turned into an ebay search and purchase, but it wasn't accurate so I returned it. I then bought my first SEIKO 5 6119-5000 from the year of my birth and was delighted with it. I started looking around and next purchased a RADO Manhattan (a model Gorbachev wore during his Reagan nuclear summits) but that too began to stop and start and even though it wasn't in the price the Tokyo seller apologised profusely and shipped it backed to Japan with a full refund (very honourable those Japanese). After that I stuck to the SEIKO 5 Automatics TV models and for a couple of years it took over me but the timing was right because as I began to question my materialist leanings, the 6119-5000s started to dry up so I think I may have the largest collection but it's very hard to verify.

There's no advantage to me posting about the watches as any price rises affect me too but I do believe everyone should have a 1968 to 80's automatic SEIKO 5  as they are diminishing in availability and represent a unique view into human nature and global mass production of the most complex of mechanism by one manufacturer worn on most humans at any one time and forever too.

I don't buy watches to make money. I buy them out of love for the design, mass manufacturing and a never again repeatable episode in most moving parts. 

Most Moving Parts on Most Human Beings in History - SEIKO 5 Automatic Watches 1968-73

I've always loved the idea that an Automatic watch is powered by natural hand movements while wearing the watch.

It's a small mechanical miracle. No battery. No winding by hand if you wear it regularly. Just the mundane swing of your arm, the twitch of your wrist, the everyday fidgeting and labour turning rotors and gears. Millions of people, billions of wrist movements, feeding these tiny machines day after day. 

In the 1968-73 period SEIKO scaled this up like no one else. They had perfected reliable automatic calibres for the mass market until quartz arrived late 1973 emerging but not yet dominant. These weren't prestige pieces or fragile heirlooms. They were tough, Japanese-made mechanical watches cheap enough for ordinary workers, soldiers, office staff and students. 

On the Collection

The folders tell the story. Rows of SEIKO 5s from the late 60s through the mid-70s — 6119-5000s in black, gold, dark blue, green, and gunmetal dials; the TV cases, hexagons, and occasional oddities like the 6309s and 7009s. No grand plan at the start. Just the idea of a watch that runs on your own motion. One return for poor timekeeping opened the floodgates. They kept appearing at the right price, in decent enough shape, and the habit formed.

What began as impulse has settled into something closer to curation. The focus stays tight: early SEIKO 5 automatics, mostly 1968-74 window, the ones that best represent that brief peak of mass mechanical production before LCD digitals took over. Condition matters — runners that still hold decent time after a quick service if needed. Aesthetics too: the clean 70s industrial designs, the TV screens, the patina on dials that have seen real wrists. 

It's not a museum set of grails. It's a working archive of the most moving parts SEIKO put on the most human beings in that era. Affordable survivors from when these watches were tools, not investments. The supply of solid, good-looking examples is drying up, so each new addition gets the wear test and earns its place. The 6119-5000s remain the core, but the others — the recent 4227 included — fill in the broader picture of that mechanical high-water mark. 

A small, personal record of motion turned into metal. Nothing more, nothing less.

The 6119 series, the 4227s and their relatives — TV cases, clean dials or Arabic numerals, day-date windows, solid 21-jewel movements ticking at 21,600 bph. They lived real lives on real wrists through factory shifts, commutes, pub nights and daily grind. Every tick accumulated the motion of the largest cohort of humans ever to live through rapid post-war industrial expansion. More moving parts, on more ordinary people, than any watchmaker had achieved before. 

This window is unique. SEIKO pushed automatics hard right up to the early 70s. Then digital watches hit in 1973/74 and everything changed. The downturn was swift. Mechanical production for the masses collapsed as quartz and digital took over — cheaper, more accurate on paper, no need for all those moving parts. The SEIKO 5 automatic era of 1968-74 (give or take) stands as the peak of that mechanical democratisation before the shift. That's why good examples are still findable and affordable on eBay today. The numbers produced were huge, but the window was narrow before the industry pivoted. Survivors that weren't beaten to death or lost are out there, often undervalued. 

It's democratised horology at its purest. The Swiss chased prestige. SEIKO delivered reliability and automatic winding to the everyman at a price that didn't require an inheritance. The result was a genuine flood of mechanical motion across the globe. 

The appeal holds because it's honest engineering married to human routine. No mysticism, just steel, jewels, springs and the blunt truth that your daily life keeps it alive. Wear it or it stops — a quiet memento mori in wristwatch form. 

The latest 4227 TV-screen arrival will get its wear test. A few days to check accuracy, then set the day/date. If it runs true, it'll slot into the rotation. Not a 6119, but another small heartbeat from that brief, high-volume mechanical peak. 

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Just The Watches

I visited this place first back in September and at the time it struck me how extraordinary the sheer range of watches were on sale. I took this QIK video earlier at the Silk Street Market which is kind of like MBK in Bangkok. Its depressing isn't it, how much effort goes into pumping out enough timepieces to keep our insatiable 'consumer' appetites fulfilled? Each of those watches has so many hundreds of component parts and must be at least days, weeks if not months of time from drawing board to supply side distribution and retail all around the world.