William Pawelec recorded this interview with Stephen Greer before his death on agreement that it would be released when it could be no harm to his family afterwards. As a soldier who realised in Vietnam that the war was being extended to keep business interests going rather than win any ideological battle, he subsequently left the forces and started his own tech industry enterprises in the late seventies to the late nineties.
His close work with government agencies during that time led him into contact with high level groups of people who have an agenda that was unconnected with the state. Listen to the interview and decide for yourself who those groups within businesses within govcorp such as Northrop and Lockheed are really working for and why the money they secure from taxpayers is neither accountable or even in the interests of anyone but themselves.
Richard Dolan would put it as a breakaway civilisation group, one that refers to UFO's as AVC's (Alien Visitation Craft) suggesting they often know who they are as the unidentified is redundant.
