From time to time I'll listen to this argument. I haven't heard or seen the concrete evidence I want and I've never had a chance to put the questions I have about this claim but it does interest me and it does fit into the thesis, antithesis Hegelian dialectic. Walter Veith is quite scholarly and less religious rant than Eric Phelps. I don't like any of the Abrahamic faiths. They're all pretty ugly in the way their followers behave. Christians the most murderous and ugly.