Demonic Aliens | The Collins Elite

It's been a few years since I last covered a Nick Redfern interview, as the only thing worth knowing about the alien issue is the deep state spends a lot of money and invests a huge amount of "limited hangout" time to own that particularly unreality network.

The fluoridated wont have noticed that the prevailing scientific narrative has moved from "we're all alone" to "there's a shit load of habitable planets out there". This is all the usual nonsense from the manipulative (and highly manipulated) media, who can't be trusted on the extremes of any argument so it's probably somewhere in the middle.

What makes the Collins Elite an interesting story is that it portrays a series of events whereby military intelligence put together a think tank of sorts to figure out the alien contact questions. Their conclusion which is broadly speaking given credence within the spiritual truth-seeking community, is that the UFO/Alien question is a transdimensional one, that can't be touched, recorded or measured and is thus no different from the paranormal spectrum.

I wouldn't normally invest this much time in describing an excellent interview but the subject came up over dinner with a prominent UFO researcher, I relistened to the original work I'd covered a few years ago and for some reason the video I listened to at least 4 or 5 times over the weekend was removed despite lingering on Youtube for years barely touched by anyone. 

I like that kind of thing so I've found an alternative for you to listen to. Unfortunately it has adverts but Nick Redfern is invariably interesting listening and I've tagged the space he's covered below.

Update: The original video was removed so the only substitute available is above.

Nick Redfern - Esoteric Dimensions To UFO Phenomena

I like Nick Redfern's modesty. In one interview he explained that he also writes about pets and horseshows or whatever it takes to keep the money flowing. However he is a prolific author, a proven door knocking investigator and his knowledge of the scope of interdependant and interrelated field of study with the UFO at the centre is possibly unique.

In addition to being interesting his ability to reserve judgement and distance himself from belief frameworks is disciplined and keeps the investigative momentum going in a health manner.

Nick Redfern - Magic Ritual, Rocket Mavericks & UFO's

Even if the NASA, UFO connection was limited to Jack Parsons of Jet Propulsion fame that would be enough WTF to write a few books. However if we factor in the Maury Island UFO Incident (and its nested connections to the Kennedy coup d'etat), that tips the subject over into super woo territory. Nick Redfern cranks that up to new super-woo high-strangeness altitudes with his book Final Events about the officially funded (but private think tank UFO investigation) The Collins Elite.

I don't buy Jack Parson's story for sharing rocket propulsion documentation with Israel and furthermore I don't understand what his incentive is given Israel's nascent status. But then we're dealing with an occult dabbler here and maybe he saw the ascent of Israel long before anyone else.

John Keel - Men In Black - 1989

I can't embed the presentation made in 1989 by John Keel but it's a must see with first class visuals including  the Maury island incident's Fred Lee Crisman, Men in Black, UFO and JFK connection which is my greatest example of the Tricksters being able to hack time. It's the only plausible explanation.

John Kiehl (Keel) comes from that line of investigators like Nick Redfern who knock on doors and ask people if they're prepared to speak. This presentation compliments my Men In Black post and the Maury Island Incident for excellent triangulation.

Go hear to listen and watch.

Nick Redfern - Corruption At NASA

Most of the people at NASA have no idea so it's a little unfair to portray the space agency (that is under military control) as corrupt across the board. Nevertheless the abdication of scientific inquiry and submission to hierarchy is ubiquitous by both highly qualified NASA pseudo scientists and the pseudo for profit news media.

Nick Redfern, Britain's plucky and persistent investigative writer and journalist highlights some of the more jarring evidence of corruption at NASA. I say corruption because taking money from taxpayers and not holding to the NASA mission faithfully is an abuse of trust and manipulation of public understanding.

However, if I'm being charitable to the rapidly plummeting credibility of NASA, they are the gatekeepers to information that would transform human conciousness across the globe over night. There would be winners and losers but the sheer scale of change has cornered the agency into a position of terrified incoherence when confronted by requests from the public to show us detailed and granular photography on Mars and the Moon in specific locations.

Off the top of my head evidence of the past civilisations on Mars would shred religion, history, free energy, academia and swell up a raging tsunami of more questions over the deception of our true history which we really have a very threadbare official narrative for.

A Brummie Approach To Super Woo - Nick Redfern's Final Events

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Nick Redfern is consistently challenging my understanding or grasp of the fringe. His steady and low key persistent journalist manner yields points of view on subjects I thought I was assembling a framework within which to work from. Not so.

I only became aware of his book Final Event through a mention today on a Randy Maugan's interview with Duncan O'Finionan, Miranda Kelley and Dave Corso. It's extraordinary stuff that feels up to the second fresh with the initiatives to push the United States into martial law and complete control of the borders and media with a Christian Fundamentalist doctrinal law and order choke hold. 

It sounds fantastic and implausible but this book is based on a a Government think tank called The Collins Elite that came to a mad (but not insane) conclusion that the E.T/UFO phenomena is demonic in nature. You can check for yourself or even buy the book. I wont write much more but these are excellent audio interviews with a quiet and humble Brummie who consistently impresses me with his open minded thinking, ability to collate threads that purists run away from and present the facts that while uncomfortable are crucial to know. I think Nick Redfern is an unknown national treasure with a prodigious output in books on the fringe of subjects that are as real as nightmares. It's a shame materialist science doesn't like stuff you can't blow up or repeat over and again in experiments and yet on the quiet......

Update: Nick reports that The Collins Elite account of Roswell is demonic (naturally) and  that doesn't tie in with Douglas Dietrich's spelling binding revelations, and so I'm at least able to question their conclusions with a sliver of more robust evidence in my back pocket.

Here's some blurb on the book and reviews:

Biography


Nick Redfern is a full-time author and journalist specializing in a wide range of unsolved mysteries, including Bigfoot, the Loch Ness Monster, UFO sightings, government conspiracies, alien abductions and paranormal phenomena. He writes regularly for the London Daily Express newspaper, Fortean Times, Fate, and UFO Magazine. His previous books include Three Men Seeking Monsters, Strange Secrets, Cosmic Crashes, and The FBI Files. Among his many exploits, Redfern has investigated reports of lake monsters in Scotland, vampires in Puerto Rico, werewolves in England, aliens in Mexico, and sea serpents in the United States. Redfern travels and lectures extensively around the world. Originally from England, he currently lives in Dallas, Texas.



Arguably, one of the most common supernatural fears among people today involves the demonic. Within the heart of every good person, there is the looming notion that evil does exist in this world. That said, if author Nick Redfern's latest thesis on extraterrestrial life has any truth to it, there are even various factions of modern government who believe the alien and UFO presence has demonic, hellish origins. Reader be warned: Redfern's "Final Events and the Secret Government Group on Demonic UFOs and the Afterlife" is one book that will beckon from outside the boundaries of sanity, and perhaps well beyond the fringes of what you thought was right and good in this world. 


Final Events tells the peculiar story of the Collins Elite, a secret government organization who begun following the work of early occultists such as Aleister Crowley and Jet Propulsion Lab co-founder Jack Parsons. The dabbling of these self-proclaimed magicians, according to the group's members, may have triggered the separation of rifts in space-time, allowing otherworldly presences a wicked passport into our world. This strange tale follows the group's work as they pursue a variety of aspects of the unexplained, including out of body experiences and research into the existence of life after death, as related to Redfern over a number of meetings in various remote locations (including at least one Mexican restaurant).


One of the wildest theories the book proposes (without giving away too much for those who plan on buying "Final Events" immediately after you've read this heart-pounding review) is the notion that disclosure of alien secrets to the public will be only one part of a larger, worldwide ruse. The underlying objective, warn those claiming access to knowledge of the real alien agenda, is to ultimately lure the populations of the world into merely thinking that the threat they face is extraterrestrial. The establishment of a "New World Order," claiming to be able to rescue people from the evil extraterrestrial menace, will in fact be the means by which people's lives and liberty will be handed over to agents of evil, masquerading to conceal their wicked intention to harvest souls from an unsuspecting populace. As unbelievable as this sounds, very similar scenarios have been proposed time and time again by the likes of William Cooper, controversial conspiracy theorist famous for claiming to know the truth behind future plans for disclosure of alien presences here on Earth. Cooper, after serving as an advocate against such subversive government-based threats for decades, was shot near his home on Nov. 5, 2001 at 11:40 PM, during a warranted attempt by police to arrest him for tax evasion. 


Are there malignant forces that extend outward from beneath what our politicians, mainstream news sources and other official institutions want us to believe? Maybe so... or maybe not; I certainly couldn't tell you. But if so, are they purely politically driven, or as Nick Redfern proposes, could some of them be not-of-this-world, or even demonic in origin? Whether or not the author stakes his claim in belief of these sorts of things, the possibilities are explored in "Final Events and the Secret Government Group on Demonic UFOs and the Afterlife," and are given a fairly objective and honest treatment. Altogether, it is an enjoyable, entertaining book.
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The summary of the book is that a semi secret group called the Collins Elite were formed as a paramilitary investigative group around the time of the first major UFO flaps after world war 2 to investigate the possibility that Non Human Entities are not only not benevolent aliens from another world but actually demonic forces that will push earth to the brink of Armageddon - but not before they lead the world into a lie that will ensure most humans go to hell. The book looks at the possibility that Aleister Crowley and a number of his disciples deliberately opened the door to another world that allowed the 20th Century UFO/Alien phenomenon to become part of modern folklore. He looks closely at alien abductions, Psy-ops, the rise of American fundamentalism and discloses that project blue beam, if it exists may not be what it is portrayed as but something far worse than we ever imagined. 


Men in black, government and NHE's working together, Faux organisms like the Golum of Hebrew mythology, projected thoughts of Armageddon into the minds of abductee's and the ushering in of the antichrist by the very people who claim to want to save Christianity by force - it's a disturbing read on many levels but utterly fascinating. 


Pure conspiracy theory or an uncovering of the facts as we may have never known it? You'll never watch Close Encounters or ET the same way again as the idea of an ET being benevolent dissolves with each page you turn and a demonic reality driven by satan becomes clear. Redfern's book is highly accessible and rather than a regurgitation of others writings is a coal face collection of interviews and tales that weave together into macabre web. 

The Trickster Archetype (Wave Particle Super Woo Duality)

One of the challenges about the poorly named UFO phenomena is how quickly and extensively it spreads into every area of super woo phenomena. I got into it by targeting quantum mechanics and mysticism for personal study at the beginning of the year and every trail led to UFOs or aliens at some point . As I was studying mysticism, hermeticism and gnosticism I thought it couldn't be that much of a side path to take a fun stroll down.

I couldn't have been more wrong.

And so it's important to say that I don't really find UFO's all that interesting. I find the possible occupants of these craft interesting and that interest doubled as I learned from the likes of Dr. Karla Turner and Niara Isley that the military has a close working relationship with, and is often performing the abductions to conduct experiments on people that are all about  the genetics, the genetics, the genetics.

So it's easy to be misrepresented as to what I'm interested in but the reality is I'm the last to have cause to complain because I've been deceiving myself. All along I've drawn the line at Cryptozoology because it's one thing to be exploring popular culture mysteries that have a military industrial complex trail of evidence, but did I really want to be investing time in Bigfoot and The Mothman prophecies? They just seemed so lo-tech to me and it is this that unveils my cultural bias.

Well, it took a British Midlander's point of view to hold up a mirror to myself because even though I don't wish to pursue CZoology (look I can barely bring myself to spell it out) as a subject I now accept that it's all one big overlapping Venn diagram clusterfuck overlap of super woo Rorschach testing and exploring of the self. Synchromysticism cranks up around UFOs, and UFO's crank up around Cryptozoology sightings and so on and so forth. You get the picture.

Listening to Nick Redfern and the likes of Christopher Knowles and Mike Clelland of late I've  had to accept that as much as I'd like to have nice neat lines of confusion the reality is I haven't got a clue what is going on with the multi dimensional and multiple tiered nuanced and highly contextual subject.

I guess I should have followed my own advice from the way back machine. Everything is contextual. The Trickster is at at play as author Christopher O'Brien explains to a witless interviewer in this interview and as Nick carefully relates below where he says 'it's not that it's just weird, it's too weird'. I didn't want to be here but here I am anyway so I might as well just accept it. It's not cut and dried. Nothing ever is.

Update: Below Nick Redfern I've posted a two part Christopher O'Brien podcast interview on a similar subject though there's some interesting 2012 perspectives in there too and below that (hopefully) is Mike Clelland interviewing Christopher O'Brien on stalking the trickster.

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